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Third Generation (Grandparents)

John Henry Andrews

Dudley John Andrews (1929 – 2010)

####### ####### Andrews (1959 – )

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Victoria (1837 – 1901)

Edward VII (1901 – 1910)

George V (1910 – 1936)

Edward VIII (1936 – 1936)

George VI (1936 – 1952)

Elizabeth II (1952 – )

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John who was known as Jack is the son of John Andrews and Florence Louisa Winterbotham Peet, he was born on the 9th July 1907 at 45 Chandos Street, Carlton, Nottingham and died on the 4th of October 1971 at home at 5 Manor Crescent, Nottingham, at the age of 64.  He was cremated four days later on the 8th in Nottingham.

 

The cause of death was a) carcinomatosis, b) carcinoma of the bronchus.  Carcinomatosis is described as a condition in which multiple carcinomas develop simultaneously, usually after dissemination from a primary source.  At the time of Jack’s death he was a company director.                    

 

According to his son Dudley, Jack had a twin who died in infancy and an older brother who died in childhood aged between 5 – 7 years. But on the 1911 Census John & Florence are listed as having one child born alive and is still living, this is Jack. It is possible that Jack’s parents did not declare the twin on the census but at present there is no trace of another birth on the registers.

 

In 1911 Jack was living at 2 York Street, Netherfield, Nottingham.  This was a four roomed house.

      

At the age of 21 Jack, who was working as a clerk, married Noreen Dudley on the 10th of November 1928 in St. Matthias’ Sneinton Church, St. Matthias Road, Nottingham.  The marriage ended in divorce during 1946. The marriage was witnessed by Walter Charles Dudley and Florence May Cooper.  Due to the dates of the marriage and Dudley’s birth this meant that Noreen was already pregnant when the couple married.

 

St. Matthias' Church on St. Matthias Road, St. Ann’s Nottingham, known as St. Matthias' Sneinton, was closed in 2003 and has since re-opened as St. Mary and St. George Coptic Orthodox Church having been bought in 2006 and on 22nd of March 2009 it held its first service.  It was also the church at which Dudley married Betty Hebblethwaite on the 4th of July 1953.

 

At the time of Dudley’s birth, on the 28th of May 1929, Jack and Noreen were living with Noreen’s parents at 18 Spalding Road, Nottingham and by now Jack was working as an Insurance Agent.

 

On the 25th of September 1930 Jack and Noreen had another son, David Anthony, known as Tony.  He was born at 3 Conway Road, Carlton, Nottingham.  According to his birth certificate Jack and Noreen were living at separate addresses, at their respective parents addresses, Jack at 2 York Street, Netherfield, Nottingham whilst Noreen was at 18 Spalding Road, Nottingham.  Jack was employed as a printers clerk.

 

By the time their third son, Derek, was born on the 3rd of May 1932 Jack and Noreen were living together again.  Derek was born in the General Hospital, Gwendolen Road, Leicester.  The family home was 12 Vallance Road, Leicester and Jack was now a printing sales manager.  Dudley mentions in his ‘life story’ that he can recall a flat in Billesdon, Leicester, so it appears that the family is all together, although it wasn’t for long.  Dudley was raised by his grandparents Walter and Mabel, Noreen’s parents, David and Derek were raised by Jack’s parents, John and Florence Andrews.  It is not known why David and Derek were not raised by them but according to Dudley he was ill at the time of Derek’s birth;

Brother Derek was born 3rd May 1932, brother David Anthony (Tony) was around 18 months old, I was ill with a sore mouth and taken to hospital. I must have had whooping cough at this time because I infected the whole ward and we were all isolated. I remember seeing my Grandpa Dudley looking through the glass doors at me, he was a commercial traveller at that time; it was here I spent my third birthday. One of my presents was a toy barrel organ, made of tin, filled with sweets, sent to me by a Mrs. Briggs, the owner of a sweet shop on Carlton Road.

 

Because my mother had just had Derek and I had just come out of hospital I was taken to Spalding Road for a few weeks whilst my mother got over Derek's birth; those few weeks lasted until after I was married at 24.  I never lived with my parents and brothers again.”

 

By 1935 Jack and Noreen are living at 53 Wood End Lane, Gravelly Hill, Birmingham.  Both of them are on the Electoral register, with Noreen having qualified through Jack’s occupation.  Their children are probably not with them.

 

In December 1938 it was announced in the House of Commons that in the event of war, a National Register would be taken that listed the personal details of every civilian in Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  This Register was to be a critical tool in coordinating the war effort at home.  It would be used to issue identity cards, organise rationing and more.  On the 3rd of September 1939 Britain declared war on Germany and Britain’s involvement in the Second World War began.  Subsequently it was announced that National Registration Day would be the 29th of September 1939.

 

At that date Jack is a printers traveller living at 38 Forester Street, Netherfield, Nottingham, the home of his parents John and Florence, together with two others whose records are officially closed at the present time.  It can be assumed that these two are his sons David Anthony and Derek.  Noreen is not registered at this home, she is in Chelsea, London, and so the couple had by this time split up.  Under instructions on the register it states that Jack was ‘First Aid A.R.P’.

 

In 1939 the Second World War started and Jack’s involvement in the war was ‘brief’.  It is not known whether Jack was a volunteer or conscripted and at what date he signed up.  In October 1939 men between the ages of 20 and 23 were conscripted, Jack was 32 by then so it is quite possible he was a volunteer bearing in mind at the start of the war according to the 1939 register he is not in the army.

 

According to his son Dudley, Jack was in the Royal Engineers and was seriously injured and taken prisoner before the Dunkirk evacuation in 1940.  At present, (October 24, 2015) there is no record of him in Ancestry’s directory of WWII POW’s.

                                  

He was imprisoned at Stalag XXI A in Poland.  Many of the prisoners were marched from France to Poland, although there is no evidence that this happened to Jack.  The camp was established in some of the town buildings in Schildberg, now called Ostrzeszow, about 44 miles ENE of Breslau, now Wroclaw in SW Poland.  The camp opened in September 1939 and in March 1943 it was closed down, with the POW's being transferred to other camps. 

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Whilst there he took part in the Concert Party as well as producing he often took the female roles. In the gallery there are various photos of the concert party and a programme of a concert featuring Jack Andrews as producer.

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On the wartime memories website there are a lot of 'memories' from Stalag XXIA, amongst any more items.  This can be found at http://www.wartimememoriesproject.com/ww2/pow/powcamp.php?pid=3343

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In 1943 Jack was repatriated in an exchange of wounded POW's.  It is likely that this repatriation took place via Sweden.  He was to be the first POW to come home in Nottingham.

 

On the 19th of October 1943 there was an exchange of prisoners between the British and the Germans.  The Geneva Convention makes provision for the repatriation of all Prisoners of War, even during hostilities.  During 1939 – 1945 it was only possible for the British and Germans to reach agreement over the seriously ill and disabled.   This meant that for the majority of the 40,000 British servicemen who were taken prisoner in 1939 and 1940, the war was to be a very long and dispiriting experience. In late 1940 negotiations begun, conducted through the Red Cross, over the repatriation of seriously wounded men.  Because at this time there were far fewer German men in this category negotiations stalled, it was only after substantial numbers of Germans were taken prisoner in the desert campaigns of 1942 that the talks resumed.  But it still took until October 1943 for the actual exchange of prisoners to take place.

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HOMEWARD BOUND PRISONERS

A BUOYANT SPIRIT MEN WHO PUZZLED THEIR CAPTORS

From our Special Correspondent GOTHENBURG, OCT. 19

Trains bearing prisoners from Germany for repatriation to Britain began arriving here from the Trelleborg ferry in the early hours of Monday, and the transfer to the Swedish steamship Drottningholm was made during darkness. Before dawn more than 1,200, most of them men from Great Britain, but also 20 Canadians, 20 Australians, a few Palestinians, and some from other parts of the British Empire, were on board.

 

About noon the German steamships Ruegen and Meteor brought a further 650 to the quays at Gothenburg just as the Drottningham was pulling out for Vinga to adjust her compasses, preparatory to sailing to Great Britain.

 

The British steamers Empress of Russia and Atlantis reached Gothenburg this afternoon with 835 German repatriates. Meanwhile further trains with allied prisoners from Germany, France, and Holland were arriving, bringing besides the service men about 50 civilians, mostly aged or unfit men and women, and at least one infant, born in a camp 10 weeks ago. The civilians were mostly from Vittel camp, in the Vosges.

 

Apparently the actual departure of the ships depends on some signal that a similar exchange has reached the agreed stage also in Oran. This is expected to arrive in time for the German ships to sail at 8 a.m. on Thursday and the British ships at 10.30 a.m. to reach England during the week-end.

 

SOLDIERS IN LAST WAR

A remarkably large number of the men were wearing ribbons of the last war. One of these – William Watts, of Belfast – was captured at Boulogne in September, 1940, sent to Lamsdorf VIIIB camp in Germany, where to his astonishment, he met his son, William, who had been captured at Calais in June. Many of the man referred to the devoted and courageous service of a British medical officer, Captain Webster, who untiringly served his fellow captives and fought for better medical treatment and camp conditions. He was constantly in conflict with the German officials, who eventually transferred him to a Russian camp, making him responsible for the entire medical arrangements there.

 

The abundant stories of attempts to escape include the exploits of one John Dexter, who, after several failures, was transferred to a disciplinary camp. The German in charge, half admiringly, offered to bet him anything that he would not get out of that camp. Dexter took the bet and within 24 hours disappeared, remaining at large over a week.

 

Three hours spent among the 1,200 new passengers in the Drottningholm on Monday morning furnished a stimulating and indeed an inspiring experience. Most of them had been prisoners for well over three years; all had endured long and severe hardships; some were maimed and many more had less obvious injuries, yet all of them displayed a buoyant spirit. It became apparent, after on had talked with the men in different parts of the ship, that theirs was not merely the natural cheerfulness of men who were going home. These were men whose confident spirit had remained high and intact through the darkest period.

 

“THOUGHT US CRAZY”

“Jerry could not understand us,” said one man who had been selected for exchange under the abortive plan of two years ago. “When we were told the disappointing news that the exchange scheme had fallen through at the last moment a group of us struck up a tune, and in a few seconds all were singing lustily ‘Land of hope and glory.’ Our German attendants just threw up their hands. Clearly they thought we were crazy. They were unable to understand why we did not show any downheartedness.” One airman whose foot was missing said quietly and cheerfully: “Never mind, Sir. It is only a very little bit of me gone.”

 

The absence of self-pity among these men was one of the most striking features of their attitude. When they were asked what sort of general treatment they had experienced they usually answered, in varying terms: “Well, you see, I was fortunate.” Some, however, had grim incidents to relate, especially about the youngest members of Hitler’s armed forces, brutal fanatics with memories scarcely stretching back beyond the dawn of the Nazi period.

 

Some men had tiny replicas of the manacles used by the Germans which they had made in camp and had brought in matchboxes. None of those questioned by your Correspondent had been manacled. Fewer members of the fanatical S.S. youth are now on duty at the camps than formerly. They have been succeeded largely by more or less disabled guards, some indeed with artificial limbs.

 

LACK OF WATER

Stalag VIIIB is still among the worst of the camps; one of the hardships suffered lately by prisoners was the great scarcity of water. In reply to complaints the Germans who had been evacuated from areas raided by the allies, and that the water was not adequate for both purposes. Prisoners, even members of the R.A.M.C. and of other non-combatant services, were used for various forms of labour, including work in the coalmines and saltmines. Work in the saltmines was dreaded most. Stalag VIIIB was now the most overcrowded camp, especially since the arrival there of thousands of prisoners from Africa and Italy. Some of the men said that the Swiss commission recently stated that the maximum capacity of this camp was 5,000, but a fortnight ago there were 16,000 prisoners in it.

 

All the men expressed unbounded gratitude to the Red Cross, and said that without its help they could scarcely have kept body and spirit together. Some stated that food parcels since the beginning of the year had reached the camps with great regularity. Soap and cigarettes were among the most useful items, as they could be easily and widely used for bartering. The men said that the German doctors worked well and conscientiously when prisoners reached their hands, but one airman who had crashed said that the first doctor who saw him declared that he would not treat him unless the patient gave his interrogators full information about the aerodrome from which he had flown and other details about the raid he was engaged in – such as the number of aircraft and the size of the crews. Eventually, however, he received proper surgical treatment.

 

From The Times, 20th October 1943 - See more at: http://ww2today.com/19th-october-1943-disabled-pows-repatriated-in-prisoner-exchange#sthash.qkYooX8R.dpuf

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In 1945 at 46 Holly Road, Kings Norton, Birmingham on the Electoral register there is John Henry and Elsie.  This is before John Henry was divorced.  They are both Andrews'.

 

On the 29th of November 1946 the Nottingham Evening Post reported from the Nottingham Assizes that John Henry Andrews of 38 Forester Street, Netherfield was granted a decree nisi that day due to wife’s desertion.

 

After the war he went into the Pay Corps, a non-combatant regiment.  It was whilst in the Pay Corps that he met Maurice Coupe.

                                   

In 1947 Jack remarried in Nottingham to Elsie May Taylor nee Wood.  The couple were both divorcees.

 

On the 13th of November 1949 the couple had a son who they called Christopher Glenn.

 

Jack was employed by M.H. Coupe Ltd, Furnishers, before branching out on his own as Jack Andrews Ltd, with two shops on Victoria Road in Netherfield which were then taken over by his son Christopher Andrews.  One was used as a second-hand shop furniture shop.

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Jack Andrews Ltd 77 Victoria Road, Netherfield, Nottingham, NG24 2NN. 

Company Number 00566575, incorporated 25/5/1956.

His son by his second wife, Christopher Glenn Andrews was listed as a director on 30th June.  He was classed as Company Secretary and Shop Manager.  Chris’ wife ####### was also a director at this time and classed as a Shop Assistant.  Chris was also a director of Renshire Finance Ltd, this is likely to be the finance company that Jack used (owned).

                                  

###### says that Jack was a gambler and lost a considerable amount of money that might have led to the divorce with Noreen.

 

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Noreen Dudley

 

Noreen is the first daughter of Walter Charles Dudley and Mabel Elizabeth Smith.  She was born on the 9th of December 1907 at 15 Teversal Avenue, Lenton, Nottingham and died on the 18th of December 1981 in the Queens Medical Centre, Nottingham at the age of 74. 

 

In 1911 she was living with her parents at 17 Spalding Road, Nottingham.  On the 1911 census the household were all listed as Smith also address given as 17 Spalding Road, though the second number 17, it is possible that it is number 18, as that address features in the lives of the Dudley’s and of Dudley Andrews.  In the household were

  • Arthur Smith, head,

  • Mary Elizabeth Smith, wife,

  • Walter Charles Dudley, son in law

  • Mabel Dudley, daughter,

  • Ida Elizabeth Smith, daughter

  • Noreen Dudley, granddaughter

 

From the enlistment papers for World War One of her father Walter dated the 25th of January 1916 the family, by this time, have moved to 124 Carlton Road, Nottingham, and they were still there at the time of his demob on the 26th of September 1919.

 

Noreen married John Henry Andrews on the 10th of November 1928 in St. Matthias’ Sneinton Church, St. Matthias Road, Nottingham.  Unfortunately the marriage ended in Divorce during 1947.  At the time of her marriage Noreen was living at 18 Spalding Road.  The marriage was witnessed by Walter Charles Dudley and Florence May Cooper.  Due to the date of the marriage and of their first son, Dudley’s birth this meant that Noreen was already pregnant when the couple married.  At the time of the marriage Noreen worked as a book binders assistant.

 

St. Matthias' Church on St. Matthias Road, St. Ann’s Nottingham, known as St. Matthias' Sneinton, was closed in 2003 and has since re-opened as St. Mary and St. George Coptic Orthodox Church having been bought in 2006 and on the of March 2009 it held its first service.  It was also the church at which Dudley married Betty Hebblethwaite on the 4th of July 1953.

 

By the time of Dudley’s was born on the 28th of May 1929, Jack and Noreen were living with Noreen’s parents at 18 Spalding Road, Nottingham.

 

On the 25th of September 1930 Jack and Noreen had another son, David Anthony, known as Tony.  He was born at 3 Conway Road, Carlton, Nottingham.  According to his birth certificate Jack and Noreen were living at separate addresses, at their respective parents addresses, Jack at 2 York Street, Netherfield, Nottingham whilst Noreen was at 18 Spalding Road, Nottingham.  Jack was employed as a printers clerk.

 

By the time their third son, Derek, was born on the 3rd of May 1932 Jack and Noreen were living together again.  Derek was born in the General Hospital, Gwendolen Road, Leicester.  The family home was 12 Vallance Road, Leicester and Jack was now a printing sales manager.  Dudley mentions in his ‘life story’ that he can recall a flat in Billesdon, Leicester, so it appears that the family is all together, although it wasn’t for long.  Dudley was raised by his grandparents Walter and Mabel, Noreen’s parents, David and Derek were raised by Jack’s parents, John and Florence Andrews.  It is not known why David and Derek were not raised by them but according to Dudley he was ill at the time of Derek’s birth;

Brother Derek was born 3rd May 1932, brother David Anthony (Tony) was around 18 months old, I was ill with a sore mouth and taken to hospital. I must have had whooping cough at this time because I infected the whole ward and we were all isolated. I remember seeing my Grandpa Dudley looking through the glass doors at me, he was a commercial traveller at that time; it was here I spent my third birthday. One of my presents was a toy barrel organ, made of tin, filled with sweets, sent to me by a Mrs. Briggs, the owner of a sweet shop on Carlton Road.

 

Because my mother had just had Derek and I had just come out of hospital I was taken to Spalding Road for a few weeks whilst my mother got over Derek's birth; those few weeks lasted until after I was married at 24.  I never lived with my parents and brothers again.”

 

By 1935 Jack and Noreen are living at 53 Wood End Lane, Gravelly Hill, Birmingham.  Both of them are on the Electoral register, with Noreen having qualified through Jack’s occupation.  Their children are probably not with them. 

 

There are family rumours that Noreen was imprisoned in London for fraud, maybe the fraud was done to try to cover up for her husband’s gambling debts.  The timescale for this is not known.  Noreen left shortly after the Coronation in 1937 and nothing was heard of her until about 1942.  Dudley Andrews states that Noreen went into the Civil Defence during the war in London and no mention was ever made about Noreen having been imprisoned whilst we were growing up.

 

However, her son Dudley’s ‘life story’ does not mention this, and also he talks about visiting her during the  war in Chelsea.  At one point during an air raid in 1944, after D-Day, they were in the London Underground and she asked Dudley to take the names of the people who were there, this is more in keeping with someone who is doing ‘war work’ and not someone who had come out of prison.  Perhaps at this time Dudley was unaware that she had been in prison.

 

###### ########, Noreen’s nephew, says that he believes that Noreen did 'war work' in London during the war, possibly fire watching.  She may have gone to London following her separation from John Henry so that she was earning a living.  Martin believes that after the war Noreen went onto to work for a well to-do family in London and lived with them as an employee.  This could possibly be Mrs Tompkins who wrote a reference for Noreen, see below, in 1956, although that was from only June 1955.

 

At Christmas time 2012, ###### ######## had a phone call from Peter Paterson. ###### had mentioned about the rumour in his Christmas card to Peter.  In the call Peter had hazy memories but some bits of information added to the story.  According to Peter, Noreen ‘disappeared’ at some stage when she was in London but can’t remember when, but it was      during this period of time that she was in prison.  This was in connection with her work at a National Savings Office in London where there was a fiddle going on.  Whether Noreen was the instigator, sole perpetrator or just part of a wider plan Peter doesn’t know.  Apparently Albert Atkinson, Noreen’s brother in law, was the one who went to London to find her during or after this incident.  Noreen also worked as a clerk at one of the dog tracks in London, but again Peter didn’t know when.

 

Peter did National Service and stayed at Noreen’s flat for a couple of weeks demob leave in April 1949, before he was finally demobbed in May 1949.  So Noreen had been released and re-established by then.  If Peter’s recollections are correct then the Prison term came after she went to London and was not the cause of her departure.

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In December 1938 it was announced in the House of Commons that in the event of war, a National Register would be taken that listed the personal details of every civilian in Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  This Register was to be a critical tool in coordinating the war effort at home.  It would be used to issue identity cards, organise rationing and more.  On the 3rd of September 1939 Britain declared war on Germany and Britain’s involvement in the Second World War began.  Subsequently it was announced that National Registration Day would be the 29th of September 1939.

 

What is certain is that she is on the 1939 Register at a different address to Jack.  Jack is at his parent’s house in Netherfield, Nottingham but Noreen is in Chelsea, London.  She is listed twice on the register both times at the same address, the first entry she appears to be with four other people called Williams at 34 Gunter Grove, Chelsea, London.  Her occupation is given as supervisor printing and under the registers instructions it states ‘civil defence A.R.P’.  The second entry on another page has the same information, though it does not include the Williams’.

 

On the 29th of November 1946 the Nottingham Evening Post reported from the Nottingham Assizes that John Henry Andrews of 38 Forester Street, Netherfield was granted a decree nisi that day due to wife’s desertion.

                                  

On 22nd March 1956 Noreen was given a reference by Mrs V M Tompkins of 'Bemersyde' 11 Oakleigh Park North, Whetstone, N20.

                                  

'To whom it may concern

                                   

Mrs N Andrews has been employed by me as a cook general since June 1955.  I have always found her work satisfactory and her character honest, sober & trustworthy. She has had charge f the house when we have been away, & has always been willing to assist in anyway.  She is only leaving because of our impending move to a new residence & my desire to use he new kitchen.

                                  V. M. Tompkins (Mrs)'  Tel HIL 5972

 

By 1965 Noreen was again living at 18 Spalding Road in Nottingham.  She was living there with her Mother Mabel.  My abiding memory of Spalding Road is visiting two grandmas, Grandma Dudley and Grandma Noreen every Thursday.  They used separate downstairs rooms.  Noreen’s had a black and white television and we, the grandchildren, would watch Thunderbirds amongst other programs.  Betty and Dudley would visit Mabel.  Betty would never come into Noreen’s room, I don’t think she ever got over the fact that Noreen did not raise Dudley, also possibly that she knew Noreen had been imprisoned.

 

It is noticeable that on Betty and Dudley’s wedding photographs that both Noreen and John Henry were not there.

 

Mabel Dudley, nee Smith, bought the house in Spalding Road for £450 because her husband Walter was in Ireland at the time.  In the 1970’s Dudley arranged for the house to be sold for £1000 to Nottingham City Council, on behalf of Noreen so that she could be rehoused in a council flat in Belconnon Road, Bestwood, Nottingham.

 

Between 1972 and 1974 I would cycle over to Belconnon Road every Saturday to visit grandma and to get some shopping for her from the Co-op.  It wouldn’t be allowed today but in those days I would buy 40 cigarettes for her, sometimes more.  Noreen was a heavy smoker.  I stopped going over every Saturday as I started a Saturday job at Dad’s shop in St. Annes.

 

We would visit regularly as a family, though Mum would rarely go.

 

On the 21st of December 1981 her death registered on 21/12/1981 by Dudley John Andrews.

The cause of death, following a fall at home and breaking her leg, was congestive cardiac failure, Athersclerosis and fractured femur.

 

     Noted events in her life were:

*  Living: 25th January 1916, 124 Carlton Road, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 26th September 1919, 124 Carlton Road, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 10th November 1928, 18 Spalding Road, Nottingham. 

*  She worked as a Book Binders Assistant on 10th November 1928. 

*  Living: 1935, 53 Wood Lane End, Gravelly Hill, Birmingham.

*  Living 29th September 1939, 34 Gunter Grove, Chelsea, London.

*  She worked as a Printing Supervisor on 29th September 1939.

*  Living: 1944, Flat in Chelsea, London. 

*  She worked as a Cook General in June 1955 in Bermersyde, 11 Oakleigh Park North, Whetstone, N20.

*  Living: About 1965, 18 Spalding Road, Nottingham. 

*  She worked as a Home Help.

*  Living: 37 Belconnon Road, Heathwood Estate, Nottingham. 

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Children from this marriage were:

i.     Dudley John Andrews – (28/5/1929 – 18/4/2010)

ii.    David Anthony Andrews – (25/9/1930 - )

iii.   Derek Andrews – (3/5/1932 – 1998)

Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite

 

Betty Hebblethwaite (1931 – 2002)

####### ####### Andrews (1959 – )

 

Victoria (1837 – 1901)

George V (1910 – 1936)

Edward VIII (1936 – 1936)

George VI (1936 – 1952)

Elizabeth II (1952 – )

 

Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite

Cyril, known as Glead to his second wife Gwen, is the son of William Henry Hebblethwaite and Sarah Ann Cherry, and was born on the 15th of September 1890 in Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire.  He died on the 19th of March 1975 at 6 Cranston Avenue, Arnold, Nottingham, at the age of 84, and was cremated on the 25th of March 1975 at Wilford Hill Crematorium, Nottingham.

 

Cyril was the youngest of six children, at the time of his birth his siblings, Eleanor May was 13, Constance Mary was ten, Kathleen was eight, Gertrude Daisy was also eight and Basil was six.  In 1891 the Hebblethwaite family were living in High Street, Barrow upon Humber, Lincolnshire.  By 1901 the family had moved to Market Place, Glandford Brigg, Barrow upon Humber.  Although Cyril is on the 1901 census he is not listed as a scholar which is what would have been expected.

 

On Wednesday the 1st of April 1903 Hull’s Daily Mail reported;

 

Barrow.

Primitive Methodist Bazaar – The opening of the bazaar in aid of Chapel Funds on Tuesday afternoon, was very largely attended.  The decorations of the room displayed considerable taste.  Miss N. Corden presided, and the following young people assisted at the ceremony, each taking part of a stanza (adapted for the occasion by the Rev F. G. Wallis), viz., Percy Rimington, Ethel Bell, Etta Thompson, Ivy Dawson, Cyril Hebblethwaite, Ernest Roberts, Lily Wrack, and Walter Bell.  Mr W. H. Hebblethwaite was at the organ.  The stallholders were: - Fancy, Mrs D. Codd, Mrs E. Dawson, and Miss Jump; toy, Misses Roberts, Westoby, and Bilton; tea and refreshment, Mrs Wright and Mrs Cuthbert; bran tub Misses Bell and Corden.

 

It is possible that Miss Westoby is related to Cyril since his maternal grandmother is Frances Westoby.

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The 1911 census shows that the Hebblethwaite’s were now at Cross Hill House but still in Barrow upon Humber.  Cyril was now working as a clerk in a cycle works.  Cross Hill House was where both Cyril’s parents died, his father in 1930 and his mother in 1934.  In the household were his parents William Henry and Sarah-Ann, together with his siblings, Eleanor May, Constance Mary, Gertrude Daisy and Basil.  His father is retired and his mother is classed as living off her own means.  None of his sisters are working, but Basil is a general clerk working at home.

 

In January 1916 the Military Service Bill was introduced which provided for conscription of single men aged 18 to 41.  In May 1916 this was extended to married men.

 

The legislation gave men, and their employers, the right to appeal against their conscription.  These appeals could be made on the grounds of work of national importance, business or domestic hardship, medical unfitness, and conscientious objection.  It also seems that some men had to apply for an exemption certificate even though they had volunteered for the army and already been rejected as unfit.  A very large number of men appealed to Military Service Tribunals for exemption from conscription.  Most men were given some kind of exemption, usually temporary (between a few weeks and six months) or conditional on their situation at work or home remaining serious enough to warrant their retention at home.  Generally applicants went on to join up and serve until the end of the War, or as in a few cases until they were killed.

 

Though not all the military records from the First World War have survived there isn’t any record of Cyril having fought in the First World War even though he could have been conscripted due to his age.  I have vague recollections of him telling me about the Gallipoli campaign, but it cannot be proven whether he fought there or not.  Cyril was blind in one eye but I am unaware whether he was blind in the eye at the time of the war.  That would have prevented him from serving and possibly his work in an engineering factory may have contributed, even though he may only have been a clerk.

 

During 1917 Cyril married Eleanor Elizabeth Brown in Sculcoates, Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire.  Together they had four children, ######, #########, ###### and #####.  (######### does not appear on Ancestry’s database).

 

Marriage to Elizabeth E. Brown 1917 Q3 Jul-Aug-Sep H Sculcoates 9d 431

###### Hebblethwaite’s mother is Eleanor Elizabeth Brown as per his birth certificate.

 

Within a year Cyril and Elizabeth celebrated the birth of their first child ###### on the 14th of July 1918 Cyril and Eleanor were living at 272 Beverley Road, Hull, Yorkshire and Cyril was working as an Engineers Clerk, possibly still in the cycle works.  The following years saw the births of their other children, ##### in 1921 and ###### in 1925, at present there is no record for #########.

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On the back page, predominately sport, of Hull’s Daily Mail of Monday October 11th 1920 reported the following;

Barton

Brotherhood. – Mr F. M. Hornseby presided over the meeting of the Brotherhood on Sunday afternoon, when the speaker was Mr William Taylor., solicitor, Hull.  A solo, “Nearer my God to thee” was rendered by Mr Cyril Hebblethwaite, Hull, and highly appreciated.  The devotional part was taken by Mr Arthur Loughborough (headmaster of the Council School), and the accompanist was Miss Ethel Doughty.

 

There is currently a TSW Scunthorpe and District Barton Brotherhood Cup and is the only reference I can find to Barton and Brotherhood.  This may be something associated with the above report in the Daily Mail.

 

In 1922 Cyril can be found in the Kelly’s directory and is listed as living at 11 St. Leonards Road, Hull and still working as a clerk, though it does not state where.

 

According to the 1926 Kelly’s directory Cyril is listed as living at Market Place, Kirton-in-Lindsey, Lincolnshire. 

 

Cyril began to see Gwendolen Mary Hiles, nee Cooke who lived close to the Hiles’ in Kirton-in-Lindsey.  She was to become his second wife, since in 1929 Cyril and Elizabeth divorced as did Gwen and Charles Hiles.  Cyril was named on Charles Hiles divorce petition.

            1929

            Divorce Court File 3413.

            Appellant Charles Hiles

            Respondent Gwendolen Mary Hiles

            Co-respondent Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite

            Husbands petition for divorce

            Ref J77/2686/3413

 

            Divorce Court File 3414

            Appellant Elizabeth Eleanor Hebblethwaite

            Respondent Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite

            Wife's petition for divorce

            Ref J77/2686/3414

 

On the 15th of March 1930 Gwen gave birth to their first child, Peter in Nottingham and soon after on the 4th of July 1930 they married also in Nottingham.

 

Just a year later they had their second child, Betty on the 13th of May 1931, at 69 Church Drive, Carrington, Nottingham.  By this time Cyril had changed careers and he was now working as a confectionary manufacturers agent.

 

Another three years later the couple had their third and last child, ###### on the 9th of July 1934 at Valley Road, Sherwood, Nottingham, by this time Cyril’s job was classed as a commercial traveller, though he could still be in the confectionary trade. After ###### was born the family moved to Calverton, Nottingham, where Gwendolen's parents were living at Mansfield Road in Calverton.  From Gwendolen’s fathers’ Death Certificate, dated 16th January 1943, they were at Westcliffe, 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham. Her parents were soon living nearby at 4 Brookside Cottages in Lambley Lane.

 

Also on the 9th of July 1934 his mother's probate was granted.

Hebblethwaite Sarah Ann of Cross Hill House, Barrow-On-Humber, Lincolnshire, widow died 21st February 1934.  Probate 9th July to Basil Hebblethwaite, general draper, Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite, commercial traveller and Arthur Robinson Hebblethwaite, land agent. - Effects £6051 15s 10d.

According to the Bank of England this would have been worth £390 634.17 in 2015.

 

Then on the 2nd of August 1934 the Hull Daily Mail had notices regarding the estates of Cyril’s parents.  Cyril along with two of his brothers are named as executors.

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In December 1952 Peter who had been in the Nottingham Police force emigrated to Canada to join the Mounties. 

 

On the 4th of July 1953 Cyril gave away his daughter Betty to Dudley Andrews at St. Matthias Church, St. Matthias Road, St. Ann’s, Nottingham.  Cyril was by now working as a costs accountant.

 

As Peter had already emigrated to Canada to join the Mounties and ###### was married to Christopher Unwin, who was serving in the RAF which meant they moved around a lot, Cyril and Gwen moved to where Betty lived.  This meant they would see Betty’s family grow up, so in 1960 when their son-in-law had got a new job in Leominster, Herefordshire they also moved to Leominster in Green Lane.  By this time Cyril was now retired.

 

Again they followed Betty when Dudley got a job back in Nottingham so in 1963 the couple moved to 6 Cranston Avenue in Arnold, Nottingham.  It is at Cranston Avenue that I knew him, he was Grandpa Hebblethwaite, or just ‘grandpa’, we did not use his Christian names.  Dad knew him as ‘Pop’.  To his wife Gwen he was known as ‘Glead’ and it seems to all his friends.

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He was quite a smoker, I recall someone telling me sometimes eighty a day, though that does seem excessive.  However I can only recall him ever smoking a pipe, still it was before the time of health warnings, indeed in the 1930’s and 40’s advertising promoted the ‘good’ aspects of smoking.

 

Grandpa was a proud man, tall and stout in build and very straight backed.  As old age progressed he refused to use a stick to help him until his very final years and as mentioned before he was also blind in one eye. 

 

He was a keen gardener and I remember on many occasions going round to their bungalow on Cranston Avenue during school holidays to help him in the garden.  I can vividly remember how proud he was of his lawn and we would often get down on hands and knees and carefully dig out daisies and dandelions when they dared to take root in his lawn.  Also the cloches in his vegetable patch were kept in pristine rows, any weeds removed at the first sight of them.

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Whilst visiting I can also remember having coffee and biscuits, usually too many biscuits to mention.  Grandpa used to call me ‘The Biscuit Woller’.  The coffee is especially memorable as Grandma always used to make it with boiled milk, rather than hot water, on the gas cooker.  In the kitchen I can remember that there was a washtub and also an old-fashioned mangle to rinse out the clothes.

 

At the bungalow the kitchen led onto a porch come conservatory where Grandpa would often sit and potter about.

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Just about every Friday night Betty, ####, ##### and myself would walk from Kingswell Road to Cranston Avenue to visit Grandma and Grandpa.  Dudley would come later and pick us up as he worked late on Fridays.  I can remember watching television in the living room, quite often on Grandpa’s knee.  In those days of course TV was in black and white and the programme I can most remember watching there was Daktari with Clarence the cross-eyed lion.

 

Memories of Sunday night are ‘Sing Something Simple’ by the Cliff Adams singers on the radio and bath night and Raspberry Ruffles.  On Sunday evenings Grandma and Grandpa would drive to Kingswell Road around 7 pm to have a game of Bridge with Betty and Dudley.  Grandpa always came with a bag of sweets, well he had been in the confectionary business.  The one who liked the Ruffles the most was Scamp our dog, he would unwrap them himself and would eat as many as he could, given the chance.  At the time our house had two main rooms, the living room at the back and the front room that overlooked the road.  This was the ‘best’ room and where the weekly bridge game was held whilst we children stayed in the living room.

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On the day before he died Grandpa had been visiting Grandma at the convalescent home in Ruddington and Betty said that he spent an extra amount of time that night saying goodbye to Grandma.  Betty often wondered if he knew that he would never see her again.  Grandpa unfortunately died whilst I was only 15.  I was unable to go to his funeral as I was not able to get time off school.

 

Due to the nature of his death there was a report in Nottingham Evening Post;

Man, 84, is found dead. Police said they believed there were no suspicious circumstances about the death of an 84-year-old man found outside his bungalow home in Cranston Avenue, Arnold. Mr. Cyril Gleadon (sic) Hebblethwaite was found at the end of his footpath, dressed in a shirt and trousers and wrapped in a counterpane.  Mr. Hebblethwaite's wife is in Ruddington Convalescent Home recovering from an operation.  The Coroner has been told.

 

It was felt that Grandpa was trying to get to his next-door neighbour, Mrs Russell, known as Matron.  In the bungalow were his pills scattered on the floor and perhaps he was unable to get to them.

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Notice in Nottingham Evening Post.

Hebblethwaite - Cyril Gleadow.  Suddenly on 19th March at 6 Cranston Avenue, Arnold.  The loving husband of Gwen, father of Peter, Betty and ######.  Rest In Peace.  Service and cremation Wilford Hill.  Tuesday March 25th at 10.45 a.m.   

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Probate – Leeds – £8813 (£82 929.46 in 2016)     

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*  Living: 1891, High Street, Barrow Upon Humber, Lincolnshire. 

*  Living: 1901, Market Place, Glandford Brigg, Barrow upon Humber, Lincolnshire. 

*  Living: 1911, Cross Hill House, Barrow upon Humber, Lincolnshire. 

*  He worked as a Clerk in 1911 in Cycle Works.

*  Living: 14th July 1918, 272 Beverley Road, Hull, Yorkshire.

*  He worked as an Engineers Clerk on 14th July 1918, possibly still in the Cycle Works.

*  Living: 14th February 1921, 272 Beverley Road, Hull, Yorkshire.

*  Living: 1922, 11 St. Leonards Road, Hull.  From Kellys

*  He worked as a Clerk in 1922. From Kellys

*  Living: 1926, Market Place, Kirton-in-Lindsey, Lincolnshire.  From Kellys

*  Divorce from Elizabeth Eleanor Brown

*  Marriage: 4th July 1930, Nottingham.

*  Living: 13th May 1931, 69 Church Drive, Carrington, Nottingham. 

*  He worked as a Manufacturers Agent (Confectionery) on 13th May 1931.

    per birth certificate for Betty Hebblethwaite

*  He worked as a Commercial Traveller on 9th July 1934.

*  Living: 1951, 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 4th July 1953, 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham. 

*  He worked as a Costs Accountant on 4th July 1953.

*  Living: 1960, Green Lane, The Meadows, Leominster, Herefordshire.

*  Living: 1963, 6 Cranston Avenue, Arnold, Nottingham. 

 

Cyril married Eleanor Elizabeth Brown in 1917 in Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire.  The marriage ended in divorce. 

 

Children from this marriage were:

i.     ###### Hebblethwaite – (14/7/1918 – 12/1/2004 ) – Possess birth certificate

ii.    ######### Hebblethwaite

iii.   ##### Hebblethwaite – (14/2/1921 - )

iv.   ###### Hebblethwaite – (1925 - )

 

Cyril married Gwendolen Mary Cooke on the 4th of July 1930 in Nottingham. 

 

Children from this marriage were:

i.     Peter Hebblethwaite – (15/3/1930 – 21/1/2007)

ii.    Betty Hebblethwaite – (13/5/1931 – 12/8/2002)

iii.   ###### Hebblethwaite – (8/1/1934 - )  

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Gwendolen Mary Cooke

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Gwendolen Mary Cooke the fourth and last child of Thomas George Cooke and Mary Stevens Cooke (nee Johnson), was born on the 17th of December 1901.  She was possibly born at 40 Garfield Street in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.  Her father Thomas was a journeyman (fitter).  She died on the 15th of May 1976 in Arnold, Nottingham, at the age of 74. 

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She married Charles Hiles in the third quarter of 1922 at Gainsborough.  Unfortunately this was a very unhappy marriage and Gwendolen left due to ######## #######.  In her need to get away from Hiles she also left her son ###### who was born in the first quarter of 1927.

                                  

She met Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite who lived close to Hiles at Kirton In Lindsey in Lincolnshire.  By the time they were married on July the 4th in 1930 the couple had had a son Peter (15/3/1930).  Both Gwendolen and Cyril were divorcees and this union was a caring relationship that resulted in three children, Peter (15/3/1930), Betty (13/5/1931) and ###### (8/1/1934).  By this time they were living in Nottingham.

                                  

The three children knew nothing of Gwendolen's previous marriage or of their half-brother###### until after her death.  This deceit was understandable and tragic for her, keeping this secret for years.  The revelation caused tremendous distress to her three children when the truth came out.

                                  

After ###### was born the family moved to Calverton, Nottingham, where Gwendolen's parents were living at Mansfield Road in Calverton.  But by 1935 the family had moved to 'Westcliffe' 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham.  Her parents were soon living nearby at 4 Brookside Cottages in Lambley Lane.

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As Peter had already emigrated to Canada to join the Mounties and ###### was married to Christopher Unwin, who was serving in the RAF which meant they moved around a lot, Grandma and Grandpa moved to where Betty lived.  This meant they would see Betty’s family grow up.

 

In 1960 Cyril and Gwendolen moved to Leominster when Dudley Andrews got a job there and the Andrews family moved there.  And again they followed when Dudley got a job back in Nottingham so in 1963 the couple had moved to 6 Cranston Avenue in Arnold.

                                  

Later in life Gwendolen suffered considerable ill-health.  She had always suffered from diabetes and in her final years whilst she was in a convalescent home in Ruddington, Notts with complications arising from the diabetes, Cyril tragically died at their home in Cranston Avenue.  Betty remarked that Cyril had spent longer than normal saying goodbye to Gwendolen on the last visit he made to the hospital, as if he knew he wouldn’t see her again.

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During her time in hospital she had to have a leg amputated from above the knee due to gangrene and also a colostomy, which was later reversed.  Due to her ill-health and her frailty she came to live with her daughter Betty and her family at 36 Kingswell Road, also in Arnold, until her death on the 15th of May 1976.  

 

It was after Gwendolen’s death that it became apparent that the couple had several properties in Calverton, Nottinghamshire that they rented out.  Although the rents being charged were not the ‘going rate’ and Betty and ###### had to apply to have the rents increased so that they could afford to undertake the repairs that were needed.

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Probate – Leeds – £25 751 (£195 100.13 – 2016)

                                  

Noted events in her life were:

*  Living: 1911, 40 Garfields Street, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.  

*  Divorce: 1929 divorced from Charles Hiles. letter from Corrine 5th November 1998

*  Living: 13th May 1931, 69 Church Drive, Carrington, Nottingham. 

    From Betty Andrews place of birth

*  Living: Listed on her fathers Death Certificate, 16th January 1943,  Westcliffe, 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 1951, 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 4th July 1953, 83 Church Road, Burton Joyce, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 1960, Green Lane, The Meadows, Leominster, Herefordshire. 

*  Living: 1963, 6 Cranston Avenue, Arnold, Nottingham. 

*  Living: 1975, 36 Kingswell Road, Arnold, Nottingham. 

 

Gwendolen married Charles Hiles 3rd Qtr 1922 in Gainsborough, Lincs. 

The marriage ended in divorce. 

 

Children from this marriage were:

I.  ###### A Hiles

 

Gwendolen married Cyril Gleadow Hebblethwaite on 4th July 1930 in Nottingham.

 

Children from this marriage were:

i.     Peter Hebblethwaite – (15/3/1930 – 21/1/2007)

ii.    Betty Hebblethwaite – (13/5/1931 – 12/8/2002)

iii.   ###### Hebblethwaite – (8/1/1934 - ) 

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